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102. How to be the Leader Your Company Needs

by | May 29, 2023 | 0 comments

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Culture of Leadership
102. How to be the Leader Your Company Needs

In this episode, Brendan speaks with Robert Jordan, leadership development expert and CEO of Interim Execs. Robert is the creator of the FABS leadership assessment, shares insights on the four dominant leadership styles – fixer, artist, builder, and strategist. He explains how exceptional leaders develop their unique processes, approaches, and systems over time and how individuals can leverage their dominant style while developing skills in other areas. The podcast also explores the leadership styles of high-profile figures like Elon Musk and Sheryl Sandberg and discusses the concept of “highest and best use of time” in fostering trust and collaboration within organizations.

InterimExecs matches top executives with companies around the world. Based on research with thousands of leaders and companies, Robert Jordan and Olivia Wagner wrote “Right Leader Right Time: Discover Your Leadership Style for a Winning Career and Company,” and have launched the FABS Leadership Assessment, a free assessment at, designed to help leaders and organizations perform better. Jordan also authored “How They Did It: Billion Dollar Insights from the Heart of America,” and helped publish “Start With No,” Jim Camp’s bestseller on negotiation.

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Discussion Points

  • Robert Jordan discusses FABS leadership assessment styles – FIxers, Artists, Builders, and Strategists
  • Fixers excel in problem-solving and turnaround situations
  • Artists create world-changing ideas and innovations
  • Builders focus on dominating markets and scaling businesses
  • Strategists lead at scale and lead complex organizations
  • Leadership styles can be applied across industries
  • Elon Musk’s self-awareness and first principles thinking
  • Leaders develop their unique processes and systems
  • Leverage your dominant style while developing other skills
  • “Highest and best use of time” fosters trust
  • Blind spots in fixer-dominated leadership style
  • Artist leaders need to enroll others for success
  • Sheryl Sandberg’s journey illustrates her strengths and passions
  • Confidence and self-awareness crucial for strategists
  • Trust in personal capabilities for early career professionals
  • 3 Key Takeaways: 
    1. Confident leaders develop their leadership roadmap
    2. Confident leaders understand their blind spots
    3. Confident leaders act on self-assessments
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